tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591706.post115151414846341143..comments2023-10-02T06:59:48.447-04:00Comments on faithmaps blog: are there emerging church shibboleths?Stephenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10238745383108764223noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591706.post-1156894418819794012006-08-29T19:33:00.000-04:002006-08-29T19:33:00.000-04:00what's the scriptural basis for that comment?what's the scriptural basis for that comment?Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10238745383108764223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591706.post-1156893251938705422006-08-29T19:14:00.000-04:002006-08-29T19:14:00.000-04:00Substitutionary atonement, reality of hell, the co...Substitutionary atonement, reality of hell, the complementarian nature of gender, the nature of the Gospel itself... Those ARE all of equal importance. They're all connected. Go ahead and throw in God's omniscience and providence, election, exclusivity of Christ, nature of the trinity, and God's sovereignty. If it doesn't ALL line up, it doesn't work.<BR/><BR/>If you're off just one bit, it's at least a step toward "another gospel."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591706.post-1155155910041739862006-08-09T16:38:00.000-04:002006-08-09T16:38:00.000-04:00Interesting,It seems the quote of John Murray coul...Interesting,<BR/><BR/>It seems the quote of John Murray could be used as a way of slowly wiping the slate clean threologically. <BR/><BR/>That to me is frightening. Of course, his context is absent in that statement so I know little of his own application of thought.<BR/><BR/>Here is the issue. What is inherrently Christian?<BR/><BR/>I fear the emergent church in it's desire to do something meaningful is laying aside the most meaningful thing of all.<BR/><BR/>I do nto care what labels you paste on my lily white tush traditionalist, or ? The same could be said of the prophets that Israel itself killed, but were called by GOD to preach His word.<BR/><BR/>The bible says that the Gospel is a stumbling block and a ROck of offense. If you erase all that is offensive about the gospel, I guarantee you will erase the gospel too.<BR/><BR/>Then Christianity is dead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591706.post-1152458805161077142006-07-09T11:26:00.000-04:002006-07-09T11:26:00.000-04:00very helpful, thanks. the lumping together of 'rev...very helpful, thanks. the lumping together of 'revisionsits' as a group tells us a lot more about the person doing the taxonomy than it really sheds light on those being classified! it simply means 'i lump togehter these so i can distance myself from them'. take for instance substitutionary atonment. it is actually quite hard to find any passage of scripture that unequivically refers to this undertsnding of atonement (Isaiah 53 is perhaps closest but even there we do not see the full equation), though it is a possible way of reading some passages it is by no means obviously correct. other understandings of the atonement are far more prevelant in scripture. yet to suggest this is to commit the ultimate heresy in the eyes of people who insisit they are fully biblical. as john righlty points out 'the full teachign of the word of go' is always a mater of opinion. but there is guess is the real divide, between those who recognise that interpretations of scripture or tradtion are limited like this, and those who are convinced they have it all fully understood and must not move from that understanding. and on that, a great John Murray quote, very astute.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591706.post-1151859978171827042006-07-02T13:06:00.000-04:002006-07-02T13:06:00.000-04:00Ed Stetzer says that revisionists are "...not taki...Ed Stetzer says that revisionists are "...not taking into account the full teaching of the word of God." <BR/><BR/>If we asked 100 theologians their definition of "full teaching of the word of God" we would get 100 different answers. <BR/><BR/>That's the problem with most statements of religious absolutes - they remain absolute only in the mind of the giver.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591706.post-1151702134658187792006-06-30T17:15:00.000-04:002006-06-30T17:15:00.000-04:00I luv that pic of the colorful buckets!I luv that pic of the colorful buckets!Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17275421526588363943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591706.post-1151637326672152662006-06-29T23:15:00.000-04:002006-06-29T23:15:00.000-04:00well put. especially the notion of remaining in g...well put. especially the notion of remaining in grounded in history while continuing to do fresh theology.Laura Springerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10920102860381840156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3591706.post-1151596891498151402006-06-29T12:01:00.000-04:002006-06-29T12:01:00.000-04:00Great post, Stephen. Thanks.TonyGreat post, Stephen. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Tonytonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407408868034269264noreply@blogger.com