Brendt suggests an alternative to "friends of emergent" or "friends of discernment." :)
I loved this. Earlier I posted on the terms emergent and emerging. Someone else brought in the missional moniker. I'm not abandoning that discussion but sometimes it does feel like "I am of Paul; I am of Jesus, etc"
ht: adam omelianchuk
As I returned home from Turkey last night I became more convinced then ever that the most effective Christian bloggers are those who are engaged in much more than reading, reviewing, and commenting on books and other blogs or just posting their ideas and theologies over and over again, rather, they are those who are first and foremost active in the daily labor of ministry and mission from which they gain an experiential Kingdom perspective for blogging.
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- on transpropositionality
"Hilda Shlick thought she lost nearly all her family in the Holocaust — until her Internet-savvy grandsons located her 81-year-old brother in Canada.
'After 65 years, I have found the sister who I love," Simon Glasberg said Monday in heavily accented English, his eyes filling with tears. "I can't stop kissing her.'"
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ht: jesus outside the box
is anyone aware of a blogger hack out there that will allow me to add comment notification to blogger comments? I'm looking for a way that folks can opt into receiving emails whenever someone replys to a comment they've left on a particular post. (I realize Wordpress and others offer this and I may switch one day. )
"28-Sep-06 08:32 PM - Linda : UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! Bob was taken off the ventilator at 1 this am (yes, that is now 17 hours ago, about 8 hours after the surgery finished! He is awake and SOOOOO happy!!
We kept telling the nurses to tell him what day it was last night, so he knew he woke up on the same day, and not a month later! He is in quite a bit of pain, more from the drainage tube in his ribs than from the incision site, but he's so glad to be awake that he's just smiling!
The surgeon put in a 30cm graft...yes, that is 11.8 inches. Not what he planned to do, but apparently felt this would best protect the entire aorta from future aneurysms. He is the only Dr. there that has a different procedure that allows the time on circ arrest--when the body is cooled so dangerously low and many complications occur--to be very short. Often they are on it for 45 min to an hour, and Bob was only on for 5 minutes!!! Thank God in a million ways for how He has taken care of Bob!
He will be in the ICU Fri for sure, maybe moving out Fri pm or Sat...they are watching him more closely because of his wonderful history!
Please call me (or Bob's cell) if you want to visit to find out the best times and where he will be.
"Be still once more, oh my soul, for the Lord has been good to me" Ps 116:7 "
- bob's blog
entire seminary courses online from gordon-conwell including material from david wells.
Earlier, I had posted Is the Distinction between "Emerging Church" and "Emergent" Obscurantist?
In summary, my concern there was that while emergent village is a subset of the larger emerging church conversation, increasingly the terms seem to be used synonymously. I wondered aloud if we should just give up and and use the terms that way.
In the comments on that post, Steve Taylor from New Zealand correctly (imo) called my hand on such a proposal because to use "emergent" and "emerging church" as denoting the same group thereby runs the danger of collapsing the entire global conversation down to the issues that emergent village is discussing. Or it might imply that emergent village considers itself the primary international organization for the emerging church conversation which I don't believe that it does.
I agree with Steve that my comment was United States-centric and could be seen as dishonoring the international conversation.
Steve, thank you for pointing this out; I apologize.
All that being said, we still have confusion over the terms in the American context! Still not sure what to do about that. Not sure that saying over and over again that they aren't the same is the answer but maybe that's the best and only course we have.
"The doctrine of ‘penal substitutionary atonement’ remains a major bone of contention between the yapping, excitable Jack Russell of the emerging church and the snarling pit bull of reformed theology. "
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"The general argument that I want to put forward is that a doctrine of penal substitutionary atonement is certainly biblical but that it has to be framed narratively."
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jamie arpin-ricci posts regarding the ongoing blogospheric conversation regarding the terms
she's been diagnosed with breast cancer for the 2nd time.
"From that we found out the cancer in her lungs (originating from breast cancer) is spreading very rapidly. "
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On 2 Feb 2006, Bob Robinson went thru 13 hours of surgery after his aorta tore and blew up into a football shape. Bob went into a coma but woke up after 27 days and was eventually able to go home. But in April the aortic root started bulging again and there was great concern that it might burst. The doctors were able to get Bob's blood pressure under control, but the decision was made to do another surgery this month.
Tomorrow morning - Wed 27 Sept - Bob is having his aortic valve replaced and his aortic root replaced with a synthetic graft.
You can keep up with how Bob is doing here and you can get a username and password for that site on Bob's blog.
Please pray. If things go well, Bob will recover in about 2 months.
My amazing wife is trying to cure cancer! Well sort of. On Sat 7 October 2006 Beth is biking 100 miles in the Seagull Century Ride to raise money for Cancer Research.
This is from a letter Beth wrote to her supporters earlier this month:
I think I’ve lost my mind. I’ve signed up for a 100-mile bike ride called the “Seagull Century Ride” Oct 7th in Salisbury, Maryland, to raise money for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society to give to local researchers in the fight against blood cancers. So far, Maryland’s Team In Training has raised enough money to support three local researchers for a year! I’ve personally raised a little over $500 but still need $1,500 to reach my goal of $2,000 ....
As many of you know, my Dad and my Step-Dad both died of cancer well before their time (my Dad was 44). This is the first time since their deaths that I really feel I have a chance to contribute to the search for a cure. When I’m feeling worn out, I remember their suffering and their struggle, and it helps me press on when I feel like stopping.
I’ve been in training for 10 weeks now with Team in Training, and I am . . . SORE. The last Sunday 40-mile ride through the hills (and I mean hills!) of Howard County kicked my butt! I am very committed to completing this journey and am writing to ask you to help me. I’ve enclosed an envelope for those of you who choose to support me. For a $50 donation, I’ll wear the name of a loved one who was affected by cancer (does not have to be blood cancer) – white for memorial, purple for survivor. I already have eight names that I’ll be wearing. Thanks so much, and here’s hoping we can help them find a cure.
If you'd like to talk to Beth about what she's doing, email her here.If you'd like to participate in this effort, you can donate here!
I have a question and I'd like to precipitate some discussion in comments:
Mark Driscoll writes in Confessions of a Reformission Rev:
"The emergent church is part of the Emerging Church Movement but does not embrace the dominant theology of the movement" (emphasis mine).
In contrast, in the lively discussion section of the ever evolving emerging church definition on wikipedia, one of the participants commented:
"While I agree that there is a portion of the emerging church does not idenify with emergentvillage and those they label as "Emergent", the size and distinction of that group is small enough that it does not warrant its own article. Their definition and distinction of the terms emergent and emerging are not shared with many others and should not dominate their use in this article" [sic] (emphasis mine).
My experience has been that most of those that embrace the emerging church but don't associate as much with emergent village make that choice because they are not theological revisionists (to use Ed Stetzer's term without endorsing everything he said in his recent article - which I commented on here). (And - to be fair and just to make matters even more complicated - not all those who do associate themselves with emergent village would consider themselves revisionists, as Tony Jones recently pointed out).
But what I don't have a good handle on is the size of this group. Now, the majority doesn't rule on this question, but of the two quotes above, I don't feel that I know enough of the space to definitively state who's more correct - and I've been swimming around in the ec space for about as long as anyone.
So here's my question: are non-revisionist emerging church conversation participants so rare and so far away from the emerging church mainstream, that they just confuse people by claiming to be emerging church at all?
In other words, is the distinction of "emerging church" and "emergent" being made by so few of those in the emerging church conversation that those who maintain the distinction just need to face up to the fact that the dictionary definition has already been written by means of prevailing use and just give up on making a distinction?
(fwiw, I heartily embrace emerging church reconstructionism, but my own journey into emerging church revisionism has been far more nuanced, which I detail here.)
Any thoughts?
just downloaded this new version of itunes tonight. wonderfully, it now supports the ability to select multiple songs/talks/etc and select "Remember Position" and "Skip While Shuffling" en masse.
I had just discovered these options and was changing them one by one as I moved files to my nano. Now I can mark all my Spoken Word files and be done with it!
yes is a world
& in this world of
yes life
(skilfully curled)
all worlds
ee cummings
"love is a place"
No Thanks (1935)
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4Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand; 6do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. 7And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
8Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. 9What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me--practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.
The very helpful English Standard Version Blog points us to a great resource for seminary-level audio files: biblicaltraining.org.
Speakers include:
Resonate offers a number of church leaders' recommendations for books to read for church planters.
Some of those making recommendations are
