mark driscoll and his controversial remarks about pastors wives
andrew jones does one of his great around-the-rooms ab the recent controversy surrounding mark driscoll.
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6 comments:
Where were the controversial statements? Can you sum them up here...there's a lot of stuff on his blog to read. I read his response to the recent evangelistic fall from grace and saw nothing inappropriate.
Is this it:
"It is not uncommon to meet pastors’ wives who really let themselves go; they sometimes feel that because their husband is a pastor, he is therefore trapped into fidelity, which gives them cause for laziness. A wife who lets herself go and is not sexually available to her husband in the ways that the Song of Songs is so frank about is not responsible for her husband’s sin, but she may not be helping him either."
He did say, "Most pastors I know..."
So is the controversy about his poor observational skills?
Is it; "A wife who lets herself go and is not sexually available to her husband in the ways that the Song of Songs is so frank about is not responsible for her husband’s sin, but she may not be helping him either"
I agree. She is not helping. I also agree that a wife who "lets herself go" is making a statement that her busy pastor husband who is trying to save the world and forgets all his wife's birthdays needs to get things right at home!
There's pride in the pulpit, there's pride in the pew!
The most controversial aspect of mark's comment - imo - was making it in the context of haggard's sin. it took the focus of ted and - in the view of some - inappropriately put the focus on his wife.
i gotta be honest, i didn't read his comments that way ... but i only really skimmed his post looking for the controversy.
I also didn't read it this way at all. Like someone said on a blog, he really didn't address the issue of homosexuality which as this writer said, no matter how "hot" your wife may be, that really wasn't the issue.
I do however think a big issue is SSA (same sex attraction) issues rarely addressed in the Church at large.
If someone wrestles with this, where do they go? I believe this is far greater than imagined.
hey PP, marks original comment was not even directed at Gayle Haggard, if you read it in context. But folk are taking the total sum of marks teaching and finding enough kindling for a fire.
andrew, that's true, but I think Mark's mistake was making the comment in the same blogpost where he's talking about Haggard. he made the comment "in the same general vicinity" as gayle haggard, if you follow me. I think it would be like making a comment that teenage girls nowadays need to dress more modestly in the context of talking about a 16 year old girl who was raped and killed. even though it's not said, someone *might* make the unstated connection that the girl somehow brought it on herself. It simply is not the time to talk about how teenage girls dress. Similarly, I don't think this was the post in which Mark should have talked about pastor's wives being good stewards of their body for their husband.
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